e04: The grassroots battle to eliminate COVID

An interview with Vicky van de Togt

The grassroots battle to eliminate COVID, with Vicky van de Togt (Episode 4)
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You might not know it, but there’s a vast, well-organised international grassroots effort to address the gaps in our governments’ response to COVID.

I spoke to Vicky van der Togt, founder of the Zero Covid Alliance and a central figure in this grassroots mobilisation, to learn more about how it works, the victories they’ve had so far, and how anyone can get involved. We also talk about the Zero COVID strategy, COVID myth-busting, and Vicky’s own experience of the disease.

It was a fascinating chat – despite the audio issues – and I hope you’ll find it as eye-opening as I did.

This interview was originally recorded live for DiEM TV.


Subvrt is a podcast for thinking radicals, hosted by Mehran Khalili. It features interviews with people who confront power, and tactics to make change happen. Subscribe on iTunes, Google, Spotify or RSS.

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